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welcome

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um i've never done this before so you'll

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have to bear with me especially after mr

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howard jones's superb

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delivery was a professional i

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probably have a broadcast he planted by

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comparison to him

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but anyway i'd like to share with you

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the experiences

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um that i had over a long period of time

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in connection with crop circles

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um what i tried to do i didn't

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unfortunately have enough

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literature to give you but some people

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do have illustrations

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of some of the things that i will

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mention in here

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crop circles wow where do we start

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a giant hoax

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or some form of non-human intelligence

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trying to communicate with us

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if so

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what is the message

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for example if any of you seen or been

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in a crop circle at all

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any anyone had experience of it

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no right um

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i'll tell you what i know anyway

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i'll never forget the first crop circle

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i saw

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was in 2004

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in shell hill just outside the town of

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khan in wiltshire southern england

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it was situated below the white horse

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which is carved out of the hillside and

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consists of chalk now on the front page

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of um some of the people that have the

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leaflets

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you will see the actual white horse and

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the crop formation

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that particular crop formation measured

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some 380 feet across

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geometrically absolutely perfect

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and that particular design

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uh was actually the star

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of david of bethlehem

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now it's interesting to note that

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cropped circles that are never

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replicated there are no

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two crop circles the same they're all

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when inside the crop circle

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you could actually feel a very very

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definitive energy

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uh the crop

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was swathed and bent now the interesting

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uh the nodules of the cone

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were actually bent they weren't broken

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in any shape or form

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the crop inside

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had a very rough hard feel to it

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was the crop outside of the circle was

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very very smooth and pliable as all

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great energy had actually

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the crop had been exposed to

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this area

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uh that is where the crop circle was

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with its vast plains is actually the

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bread basket of england and is rich in

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many many lay lines there's so many lay

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lines and energy lines

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uh on

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this plane for example we've got

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the neolithic stones of avery

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under a large supposed ancient burial

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called silvery hill

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um which has been suggested that over

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the centuries it's been a landing site

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for ufos

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i have no evidence of it as such that i

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can truly either know but it's a it is a

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theory

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and in fact silvery hill rises above the

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flat plains of wheelchair

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and is itself completely flat and we can

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can be seen for miles because if you are

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familiar with that area

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the area is vast as all planes

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the whole area is actually hot spot for

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various light phenomena

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and crop circles

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encompassing all areas in around khan

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pusing

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walton barnes and bishop's cannon

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i became so interested uh in this that i

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became a member of the wheelchair crop

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circle society for over 10 years

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or i've seen literally a few hundred

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crop formations

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a result of an incredible phenomena or

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men on the way home from the pad with

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planks gas cylinders dogs

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which are instantaneously different

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in quality from the others

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what about large circles designed that

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appear in desert sands

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or circle designs in ice now a very

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thing has come for this evening the

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gentleman here has bought a

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very unique picture of a massive circle

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which has been man-made formed on the

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sands in

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for example man-made if you think they

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uh some years ago a large

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uh formation with a highly complex

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of 1 000 circles within the circles

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producing the shape of a scorpion

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and it's there for all to see within 50

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yards of the main road no one sees a

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the formation measured some 900 980 feet

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achieved in four and a half hours

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in the dark and no one sees a thing

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so guys if you are doing these things

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show us we've seen the smaller circles

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and everything but not on that scale and

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these are absolutely

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perfectly made and again i repeat myself

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the corn is is actually swathed and not

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broken is just bent

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no one's left their planks there empty

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researchers believe

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there is evidence of a very high energy

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being applied skeptics of course

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all man-made

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there was a design of a mitzi bushes car

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made for an ad that did not barnes in

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wheelchair

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this took an astonishing two days

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to complete in broad daylight

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um the the earliest

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crop circles um

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something known as the moen devil

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and he was an impulse style character

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that literally went through the crop

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in a created a formation with a scythe

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but that's going back from historical

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or 40 years crop circles have become

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very prevalent

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circle society

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we had many many interesting weekends

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interesting people from all over the

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world giving

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talks researchers

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and skeptics alike

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the world

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leading researcher on crop formations

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is a number hall indian by the name of

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rod bear cloud now living in canada

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uh his whole

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life has been studying crop circles all

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over the world in this country for

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example they're contained in wheelchair

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don't seem to get anything in newcastle

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sightings in westwood we don't get crop

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he's studied the subject for many many

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he believes that they come from the

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hieroglyphics in the king's chamber in

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the great pyramid

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as far as the incas are concerned it

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comes from machu picchu in

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two patterns of light each is completely

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with its own message

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uh for example as far as rob bair cloud

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was concerned

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indian and reservations in america are

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self-policing

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no government authority is allowed entry

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fly over their land without permission

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he says that his forefathers

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for thousands of years

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have actually been visited visited by

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what he calls the star people

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who apparently come not unlike the

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egyptians from the dog star

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or or ryan

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and that we humans are the offspring

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of extraterrestrials

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who are deeply concerned that their

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prodigies

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are destroying mother earth which is

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possibly nuclear attacks that's the

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biggest fear of all

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these glyphs or binary messages are sent

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to us in the form of a crop circle

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warning us of the damage

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that we're actually doing to mother

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and as a consequence of destroying the

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we however are not advanced enough

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to be able to interpret

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and see what these signs are actually

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the extremely precise

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geometrical qualities of some crop

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formations now if you're lucky enough to

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the geometry of

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a crop circle which is when you have a

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look at it is so complex

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that it is absolutely perfect

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has its own geometry before it's

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mathematical laws

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or some kind of pre-medit intelligence

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the notion that such non-random

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accuracy could be trumped out by hoaxers

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in dark fields

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civilianly stretches the credibility of

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complex tangents

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present in three of the pictograms that

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are actually on page two i do apologize

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that not everybody managed to get the

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the information but the people who do

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have it

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can see on page two the complex of it

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um

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if it means anything that the

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gentleman's name who actually

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studied and is a specialist on it

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um

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they're the two people responsible for

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the research on these

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and they have carried out extensive

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search on that area

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now another not well known person

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who was actually president

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of wheelchair crop circle society for

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many years before he died

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was leading singer with 60s 70s band the

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troggs was reg presley hey rich where

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are you reg

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there's a man there in the middle reggae

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i'm sure you've all heard about it the

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reds lived in devices

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and it was very very knowledgeable on

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all of this

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reg wrote a very interesting book called

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40 things

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they won't tell us about

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i have a copy of it which i'll bring

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next time

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um couldn't get it in time for this

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evening

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um

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now a video which he once showed us at

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one of the meetings

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showed a farmer

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plowing a furrow on the wheelchair plane

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and directly behind him

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was a big plantation of corn

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without any warning three olds of light

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about the size of large beach walls came

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down from the sky

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and for about five minutes

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they actually just went over the crop up

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down

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just over it then all of a sudden a

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formation

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was created by these orbs of light which

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went directly straight up into the sky

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and there they were

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now

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that

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reg actually presented and showed us

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it's

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as i say you know people can make their

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own judgment whether it's right wrong or

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indifferent anyway um i'd like to say

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before i conclude because i've brought

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quite a long

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um

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dvd for you to see on various crop

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circles which will take all even though

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we're not going to do that because we've

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got other things to discuss

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but um you can see it for 20-25 minutes

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um i've had this for many years and i've

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never seen it myself so i'll be quite

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interested in seeing what it's about

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there's one

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very interesting uh crop circle i'm sure

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you've heard of the organization seti

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which is search for extraterrestrial

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life americans

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and they have a signal station

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in arizo in puerto rico

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now in 1974

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they sent a binary message

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out to the universe

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of which is on i think it's a second

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page

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before the end of that particular

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leaflet and basically

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it had

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our numerals at the top

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alphabet underneath

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what we can see to be the universe in a

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shape

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with a drawn of the human being and the

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letter m

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underneath now this was sent out from

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uh arecibo in 1974

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and took quite a while before we

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actually had a reply

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which we did have a reply in 2002

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in the form of a crop circle

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very very interesting was it a hoax was

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it genuine it was a very very complex

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message

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universe was different

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to the form that we believed it to be

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and there was a grey alien on it

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and um

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was it a hoax was it real i don't know

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um

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but it's quite interesting because i say

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it took 20 years

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uh in order to get a reply was it

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man-made

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very very complicated but anyway um

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not a lot that can add i think i'll let

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the crop circles do the work and you can

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have a look at the video and see the

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different formations and if i can

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be a service to you in any way any

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questions you want to ask and form it

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like

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without any shadow or yes

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as far as i'm going so somewhere out

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okay

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yes there is

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yes

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um

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yeah there is i mean i couldn't

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specifically tell you the world level

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but the very texture the very nature the

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very soil is entirely different within

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that complex than it is outside

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um so whatever is

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actually making them

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um

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is a very very high energy field to be

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able to produce and indeed

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as you noticed on

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the film the the corn is actually

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swathed

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even with an intense energy it's not

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broken

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now i would assume what you were saying

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steve about youngsters doing it

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um and they do i mean yeah

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there are men that don't create crop

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circles

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but when you when you actually

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study them they are entirely different

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and can be seen as such when you see it

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you know what's man-made yeah that's

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exactly what this documentary was

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showing they spent six of them spent

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hours and hours and hours on this and it

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was very very basic you know

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so to produce something so um so

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difficult yeah well it's something 980

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feet across one half i was in the dark

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exactly you know it's terrifically

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perfect beggar's belief really but there

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it is it's there for everyone to see

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this

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well i'm just going to say with the um

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the fake ones and the real ones yeah was

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there a difference in a

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electric magnetic energy and uh all that

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i've never been in the one that that's

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actually fake so i could i couldn't say

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give it a fair comparison you know yeah

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um

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no the ones the ones that i've seen that

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have come through all the society and

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whatever and we've gone out and we've

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got to

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yeah and you can tell you could

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instantly

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you can tell the difference between a

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hawks one and one that is

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what else

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well i think we've a bit of a break have

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a break now um